§857 Hitler, Roosevelt and Stalin (1945): VI-15.

VI-15 (§857):

Under the tomb shall be found the prince,
Who shall have the prize all over Nuremberg:
The Spanish King weak in Capricorn,
Deceived by feint by the great Wittenberg.

(Dessoubz la tombe sera trouvé le prince,
Qu'aura le pris par dessus Nuremberg:
L'Espaignol Roy en Capricorne mince,
Fainct & trahy par le grand Witemberg.)

NOTES: Le pris: = le prix (the prize). In fact, of 9 usages of the word « pris » in the Prophecies of Nostradamus, 5 are a variant of prix (price, prize: III-30, III-53, V-16, VI-8 and VI-15), 3 are the past participle of prendre (to take: I-10, II-53 and IX-41) and the remaining one is an anagram of pis and pire (worse: X-36).

Par dessus
: = par-dessus (above, over).

Under the tomb shall be found the prince: « Underneath the tomb (of desolation) will be found the prince (dictator) who… » (Lamont, 1944, p.167).

Under the tomb shall be found the prince, Who shall have the prize all over Nuremberg
: « The two first lines refer evidently to Hitler, for it is a known fact that the city of Nuremberg was the centre of the Nazism. It is also known that, when the Soviet armies arrived at the Reichstag, they could not find but a cremated body, under the ruins of concrete. “Dessoubz la tombe sera trouvé le prince”, says Nostradamus, employing the Latin sense of princeps (the first in rank, chief, leader, therefore “Führer”). The word “tombe (tomb)” hides (by anagram) “béton (concrete)”, which tells us under what kind of tomb Hitler was found. In general, a body is not put UNDER the tomb. It is just this particular way of expression that orients our attention to a possible anagram.» (Ionescu, 1976, p.603).

The Spanish King weak in Capricorn
: « Franklin Delano Roosevelt, different from other presidents, had one of his names as Spanish origin (Delano), the name inherited from his mother (Sara Delano Roosevelt). To say that someone is weak in Capricorn, it is to say that he is weak with his legs, for the sign of Capricorn governs the legs (area of the knees). Nostradamus alludes to the well known invalidism of this President.» (Ionescu, id., p.603-604).

As to the comment of Ionescu that the name Delano is of Spanish origin, it is not correct because the name Delano is of French origin, being a contraction of « Philippe De La Noye, who arrived in Plymouth in 1621; until FDR, only five other presidents had Pilgrim blood. But the Delanos go back much further than that; the family was of mixed French and Dutch descent, and traces its ancestry all the way to William the Conqueror.» (Gunther, 1950, p.170).

On the other hand, the origin of the Roosevelt family is genuinely Dutch:
« The Roosevelt family was founded by a certain Claes Martenszen Van Rosenvelt who set sail from Holland to Nieuw Amsterdam in the 1640’s. The name ‘Roosevelt derives from the locality where Claes lived, Rosen Velt (Field of Roses)’, on the island of Tholen, near Zeeland. Some Roosevelts still live in Holland to-day.» (Gunther, id., p.166).

In this way, the principal origin of Franklin Delano Roosevelt was Dutch or in Holland, the country under the Spanish suzerainty before her independence in 1581. Another example of this meaning of Spain is found in the quatrain IV-94 (§804): Deux grands freres seront chassés d’Espaigne (Two great brothers shall be chased from Spain). Spain was a neutral in WWII, then the term is metaphorical and represents probably the area of the ancient Spanish Netherlands, and the two great brothers thence chased are the governments in exile of the Netherlands and Belgium occupied by Nazis. Cf. X-83, §799: They will be obliged to leave the park. In its context of the WWII, ‘the Spanish King’ of the quatrain VI-15 related to Hitler and Stalin cannot be of Spain in neutrality, then may have a nuance of the former Spanish Netherlands like the quatrain IV-94. 

The great Wittenberg
: = Martin Luther by metonymy, himself a historical metaphor for Stalin, « who was a theologian like Luther, and became the Pontiff of the grand antichristian schism of the Communism.» (Ionescu, id., p.604).

The Spanish King weak in Capricorn, Deceived by feint by the great Wittenberg: « The tactics of Stalin was simple: He intended some objectives, knowing the good faith of the Allies – that was pure naivety toward a man having been experienced in occult and conspiratorial machinations. The situation of Germany is to be taken as an example. Germany had been divided into “zones of influence”. Before long we became able to confirm how “the American influence” helped the reconstruction of this country, while how “the Soviet influence” had been in reality a pure occupation and one of the most cruel ever seen. Another tactics of Stalin was to profit from the fact that the Allies seemed unconscious of their own power. It is known that the upsetting itself of the Soviet-German front and the deliverance of the Soviet Union had been made by means of American assistance (more than 10 billion dollars in armament and equipment). All the world, including the Americans, passed over this tiny detail in silence.» (Ionescu, id., p.602). Contrary to this last of Ionescu’s comments, there is a proof of Stalin’s thanks to Roosevelt at Teheran: « Never before had a President of the United States travelled so far while in office; never before had a President resided, so to speak, on foreign soil, because he [FDR] slept at the Russian Embassy, not our own. (Facilities for protection were better within the Russian compound, and to be Stalin’s guest saved him fatiguing travel within the city.) Not for thirty years or more had Stalin, on his side, ever set foot out of Russia, and one contemporary account states that he had never flown before. There were all manner of festivities. Churchill presented Stalin with a handsome sword, the gift of the King of England, as a memorial to Russian heroism at Stalingrad; Stalin toasted Roosevelt, saying that without American supplies and munitions the Russians could not have won their victories.» (Gunther, 1950, p.363-364).

« Roosevelt and Stalin: Roosevelt did not perceive fully that the Russians made no distinction between the military and the political and that the war they were fighting, defensive though it might be in immediate origin, was nothing more in their eyes than another round in the inevitable conflict between the ‘Communist’ and ‘imperialist’ halves of the world. Roosevelt and Stalin met only twice. Nevertheless, it was the American belief that fundamentally Americans and Russians were fighting for the same ends and looking forward to the same kind of post-war world while the British were interested in objectives which were alien or antipathetic to American opinion. The principal reasons why Roosevelt cherished such illusions could be found in three very abstract ideas which figured largely in Roosevelt’s thinking but which had quite a different meaning from the ones that the Russians attached to them. In the first place he believed that the British – and Churchill in particular – were ‘imperialist’ and that both the Russians and the Americans were ‘anti-imperialist’. He did not perceive that the Russians attached quite another meaning to anti-imperialism and were by no means averse to using their power to spread the bounds of the Communist empire. In the second place, Roosevelt believed that Americans and Russians both stood for ‘democratic’ government while the British hankered after preserving or restoring monarchies and other non-democratic forms of government. Finally, Roosevelt shared the antipathy of his former leader Woodrow Wilson for the notion of the balance of power, imagining that the post-war world could be managed by an amalgam of the wartime Grand Alliance with the principle of national self-determination and the equality of sates, the whole given institutional form in what became the United Nations Organization. [Max Beloff].» (Taylor,1974, p.215).
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We have covered 143 quatrains (§588-§730) concerning the World Events in the 19th century after Napoleonic ages [1821-1900] in the Prophecies of Nostradamus, and 218 in the 20th [1901-2000] (§731-§948).

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